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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:05 pm

This is from an email by SA Muslims. Another organization trying to heip the Ummah see through sanha's lies.


As-salaam-u-alaikum,

My inbox was inundated this morning with emails informing everyone
that flora light is not halaal. Immediately I went onto the Unilever
South Africa website, got the telephone number and called the consumer
department. They assured me that this product is locally produced and
differs from the Australian and New Zealand Flrora products, in that
it does not contain Pork Gelatine like their sister-companies ( which
is where the emails originated). They also asked me to log on to their
website www.loveyourheart.co.za <http://www.loveyourheart.co.za/>
where a response will be posted by the end of today,(look under the
"SEED MAN" on the home page).

However, what was disappointing was that the consumer division
refused to fax or email me a copy of the halaal certificate, saying
that since the product already has a stamp it is not necessary.

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:10 pm

I later received an email from Ridwaan Saib, which had the attachment
from the SANHA consumer department, stating exactly what the Unilever
consumer department stated, (that the emails originated in Australia
and New Zealand, and South African Flora products are locally produced
and do not contain pork gelatine).I am still in doubt about the
authenticity following SANHA's questionable reputation regarding Early
Bird and Ranibow chicken and the halaal status.

I request the SA muslims intervention to look into the matter and
honestly inform the Ummah.

Shukran

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:16 pm

This email was sent by a concerned sister. May ALLAH reward her for
her efforts & concern. We will do our best, but we urge the public in
general to follow in this sister’s footsteps & also intervene. It is
our duty-each & every one of us- to verify what we read is authentic,
what we eat is halaal etc & not just take the words of others,
especially when there is what is known as “reasonable doubt” on
their word. Insha ALLAH we will publish something soon on this matter.

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:26 pm

BismillahiBismillahir-Rahmaanir-Raheem

Statement by The Jamiatul Ulama Gauteng

All praises are due only unto Allah, Most High. Durood and Salaams be
upon Nabi Muhammed Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam.It is with deep regret
that we find ourselves compelled to respond in this auspicious month
of Ramadaan to Sanha’s latest disinformation. (Sanha News Flash
30).We echo the sentiments of the public who simply wish the truth,
and nothing but the truth, to prevail.Sanha wishes desperately to
portray the Ulama who visited the Early Bird Plant as extremely evil
Muslims who bribe slaughterers, hate illustrious personalities such as
Hadhrat Sheikh Zakariyya and
Mufti Mahmood (Rahmatullahi alayhima) and detest the Tableegh Jamaat.
These ‘wicked’ Ulama have made everything Haraam and are
unapproachable and unreasonable.

Sanha seeks to convey in their latest News Flash that they are
innocent victims being unfairly dragged to court, and that too in the
Holy month of Ramadaan. No one has any desire for
mediation/arbitration or reconciliation.

But is this the case?

The public will be surprised, if not shocked at the extent The
Jamiatul Ulama Gauteng went to resolve this crises.

How many times have we invited Sanha to meet with us? Once would have
been sufficient, twice preferable, thrice, commendable.We never
stopped at three. We invited Sanha a total amount of five times! Yes,
five times!

From the 19th June 2009 until as recently as 12th August 2009, we
have been inviting them, appealing to them to meet with us. We invited
them directly, we invited them via emissaries, we invited them and
waited and waited and waited for a response.

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:50 pm

From the 19th June 2009 until as recently as 12th August 2009, we
have been inviting them, appealing to them to meet with us. We invited
them directly, we invited them via emissaries, we invited them and
waited and waited and waited for a response.

Our waiting was in vain. Our waiting was futile. Our waiting was a
waste of time since Sanha did noteven bother acknowledging our
letters. We debated as to why Sanha refused to respond to our
invitations. Perhaps they did not want to meet us at our premises. To
accommodate this possibility,we suggested in our latest invitation
that the meeting be conducted at a neutral venue!
We wanted a formal, orderly meeting in the presence of other Ulama.
All of us have an interest in solving this problem which is tearing
the Ummah apart. It’s now brother against brother, father against
son, neighbor against neighbor. This is not how Muslims should live!
We proposed a meeting between Ulama at a neutral venue. Three
delegates from each Darul-Uloom, three delegates from each Jamiat and
three delegates from Sanha would be invited to the meeting.Fair? Some
prominent Ulama could also be invited as guests of honour. Everyone
would give evidence, including the slaughterers, under the oath of The
Holy Qur’aan. Fair? Everyone will be free to present their
recordings and documents etc. to the esteemed Ulama for scrutiny and
in-depth nalyses. Fair? The sequence of events and name calling etc.
could also have been examined and investigated. Fair? Guilty parties
could make Taubah and apologize. Fair? Records
could have been set straight. Fair? Have you heard anything at all
from Sanha concerning our invitations and proposals for the meeting?
Of course, you have not! One wonders why? Were any “News Flashes”
forwarded to the public about our proposal. Why not? Were any
announcements made on their favourite Radio Station about the
invitations extended by us for a meeting since the 19th June? Again,
why not?

Why, Sanha, why? Why were you scared to meet with us? If keeping us
waiting without even bothering to acknowledge our correspondences was
not bad enough, why do you convey the impression to the public that
you are desirous of reconciliation? Where is the Khauf of Allah
Ta`ala? Why the concealment of such an important development?

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:55 pm

Sanha, we will tell you what you feared. You feared being unmasked.
You feared the copious evidence backing every single claim of ours.
You feared the recordings of conversations being aired in the
auspicious presence of Ulama in which you reprimanded your supervisor,
Rahmat Khan, for allowing

us to enter into the Plant. You feared taking an oath on Allah’s
Name and under that Holy oath give evidence that our visit to the
Plant was a conspiracy to destroy you. You feared us challenging you
to provide the evidence that our visit to the Early Bird Plant was
conducted with a preconceived motive to destroy you. You feared the
testimony of the slaughterers whom you felt “deserved a beating”.

You feared that the innocent Ulama may look at the entire affair in a
different light. You feared that they may just decide that the
chickens are not Halaal. You feared us challenging you to substantiate
your preposterous claim that the Ulama had bribed the slaughterers to
sign affidavits.

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:03 pm

Such slander against Ulama who teach the Holy Qur’an shakes the
Arsh of Allah Ta`ala. Such slander against Ulama who teach Hadith must
make the green dome shudder with anger! There must be a bounce to such
terrible slander.

Sanha you ignored our five invitations issued for the Pleasure of
Allah Ta`ala. Sanha, you may duck and dive here (first it was “they
never approach us”, now it is “you can’t deal with such people,
they are unapproachable”), but, Wallah! Your Day of Accountability
is coming. To the public we say: Be fair. Allah Ta`ala loves those who
are just. “Be just! It is closer to Taqwa. And fear Allah Ta`ala”,
says the Holy Qur’aan.

Had Sanha accepted our invitations before the court cases were
initiated, the matter would not have come to this stage? How does
Sanha justify their silence to our invitations? We waited and waited
and waited in vain. Not one invitation from the small De Deur Jamiat
but five UNACKNOWLDEGED invitations! We waited enough. We are tired of
emissaries coming and going. May Allah Ta`ala reward one and all for
their sincere efforts. Time is precious, especially in this auspicious
month of Ramadaan. Please do not waste our time anymore. We have many
other obligations and Deeni activities to attend to other than the
Sanha issue. Two months of waiting was indeed a long, long wait. Our
days of waiting are over. We did our duty. We wish to reiterate to the
public that we are not a party to any court cases which The Scholars
of The Truth have initiated. Everyone is free to think what they wish
to. Just one more answering to do

on the Day of Qiyamah for anyone who seeks to convey a different
impression.

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Post by Taalib Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:06 pm

salam
Note that the contents of the above posts have been taken from SA Muslims publications.

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Post by Truth-Searcher Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:14 pm

May Allah Ta'aala aid those on the path of the Haqq and Insha'Allah the plain stark truth will be seen by all.


Sanha, if you ever read this, think seriously... WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER TO YOUR RABB ON THE DAY OF QIYAAMAH!!?
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Post by Halima Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:34 am

Astaghfirullah! A very sad time we are living in, muslims sinking to such a level! Ya Rabb save us!
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